How I Fired 45K Up With Algo trading – Algotechs
Algo trading with Algotechs, my experience and full story.
I still can remember that Sunday as if it was yesterday, the 19th of November of 2017, the day when it all started… Feeling ready to get into the “algosphere”, I took my debit card out of my wallet, filled in the online form with excitement and clicked on the “deposit now” button. My first 500€ were on the way! That was the beginning of a sinusoidal journey towards a 45K € loss…
At that point I was still rational, I had in my mind that I would just gamble the minimum investment, and learn how algotrading works in Forex, how the banks and big financial institutions make money, and how they fool most day traders. I am a curious person and always want to know the why’s of things that interest me. I had previously traded manually using Trading 212 and realised that I was competing against robots and manipulated markets controlled by the big boys. So, yeah, 500€ for the chance of learning a “secret”? Why not?
During that time, I was working as a general operator, taking care of simple manual labour tasks as assembling or sheet metal forming, while I waited for my well-deserved promotion to CAD engineer. I had some periods of frustration, which I calmed down by eating delicious Sainsbury’s chocolate biscuits after work or scaping to other countries during my holidays with friends or girlfriend. I dreamed big, I wanted financial freedom, travel the world, visit the most astonishing places, taste all types of different cuisines and learn from the habits of other cultures.
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How did I find out about Algotechs?
The truth is that I didn’t find Algotechs, but Algotechs found me. How? Cookies is the answer. The web knew about my interest in Forex trading, displaying related adverts of “how to make money quick” on the main social media streams, YouTube and my frequently visited websites. None of them caught really my attention, they all seemed fake and obvious that it wasn’t for real. Until I first saw Algotechs advertised on Facebook. I fell completely amazed by the idea of algorithmic trading. As a mechanical engineer, I strongly believed that there was a numerical pattern for absolutely everything and trading the markets couldn’t be an exception. After all, that was what professors had been showing me during my studies, day after day.
At that point, I did some research about algotrading and Algotechs, but I couldn’t find much information about the company, rather than a few – at that time – positive reviews. It seemed to be a new innovative initiative, which handed the big boys’ tools over to retail investors, giving the chance to play in the Premier Ligue with options of making “top money”, and there wasn’t much written about that…
Algo trading History
Source: Wikipedia
“The concept of automated trading system was first introduced by Richard Donchian in 1949 when he used a set of rules to buy and sell the funds. Then, in the 1980s, the concept of rule based trading became more popular when famous traders like John Henry began to use such strategies. In the mid 1990s, some models were available for purchase. Also, improvements in technology increased the accessibility for retail investors. Early form of Automated Trading System, software based on algorithm, has been used by financial managers and brokers. These kinds of software were used to automatically manage clients’ portfolios. However, first service to free market without any supervision was first launched in 2008 which was Betterment by Jon Stein. Since then, this system has been improving with the development in the IT industry. Now, Automated Trading System is managing huge assets all around the globe. In 2014, more than 75 per cent of the stock shares traded on United States exchanges (including the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ) originated from automated trading system orders.”
So, as it seems
Ever wonder why the market volatility has increased so much over the last decade? Is it perhaps because we are heading to a robot competition era?
I do have a lot of unanswered questions regarding
Up to this point, I consider any further research a waste of my time, as it’s proven that this strategy won’t make me a millionaire anyway.
My algo beginning
“Your deposit has been transferred successfully”, I am in. The next step was to validate my
Algotechs ATS software runs on the Meta Trader 4 (MT4) trading platform, so I had to download it and log into my trading account, where all trades would be made for me.
MT4 is a popular platform among Forex traders, as it’s EA compatible, allowing you to develop and use your own algotrading software or buying another one instead.
MyFxBook tracks some of these purchasable robots and shows its performance online. On there, you can compare, ask questions and discuss with others about any robot you may like.
ATS Algotechs software was also tracked by MyFXBook with track records and trading privileges verified, which means that MyFxBook was connected to Algotechs broker (bealgo), ensuring that the trades were real.
Right, the “reality” game was about to begin!
First trades
The minimum investment was 2000€, so 1500€ were added to my trading account as a promo offer. For the next four weeks, I watched how the algorithm opened and closed trades profiting consistently before depositing the remaining 1500€, transferred by debit card.
Little I knew at that time that these tiny little things would transform into a monstrous dangerous predator.
Switching mode: Emotionality takes over rationality
That bl**dy software is fu**ing brilliant! My big dreams can be made real in no time! My and my girlfriend funding our world travelling expenses thanks to a bunch of sequential algorithms! Why didn’t I know about that before?! Is that how the” mafia” finances their boats and expensive wines?!
These were some of my initial thoughts after seeing my account speeding like a rocket. All my rational “cleverness” was gone, I was completely emotionally dragged, lived in an imaginary bubble that would lead me to make the biggest financial mistake of my life…
Transferring a lump sum from my checking/savings accounts
My mum and I had been cumulating cash from our Industrial Warehouse rental income and some inherited money, which was sitting in a savings and checking accounts, earning a little over of 0.75% of interest. Guess what I did? Transfer a big stake of this cash to Bealgo while imagining myself laying down on the beach drinking a lovely mojito cocktail.
I know what you are thinking: “you were such a fool” – true, no further comments.
So, I deposited a total of 47K € to their main bank provider Københavns Andelskasse in several goes. My goal was to wait until my trading account would surpass the 100K€ landmark, in order to reduce the success fees. I knew it was risky, but GOD man I wanted it so badly! My Spanish bank raised a red flag to me, which I ignored as I thought it was only a strategy to keep the funds in (for new readers: Banks and I are not friends).
Soon after I found out that the red flag wasn’t bollocks at all…
The Danish government’s company for failed banks, Finansiel Stabilitet, assumed control over Københavns Andelskasse, or Copenhagen Cooperative Bank after it was notified by Denmark’s Financial Supervisory Authority that it had made significant breaches to anti-money laundering regulations and was likely to fail. Funds blocked.
Ouch!!!!!!
After that I panicked, my vision dreams vanished as I entered a recession zone and get completely lost into it. I wasn’t told much from Algotechs or Bealgo, rather than being patient until their agents resolve the issue. I requested a withdraw but only those funds transferred by debit card were given back to me, 3000€. The rest was apparently blocked.
Waiting, waiting, waiting and more waiting… Until in February, someone tweeted somewhere that their agents were very close to reaching a solution and customer funds would be unblocked soon. I tested 2000€ and funds were in my Spanish account the very next day. Hooray! I told them that from now on my plan was to withdraw at least 2000€ per month. Curiously, soon after my account dropped like a brick, as I showed on my Portfolio Update #4 March 2019.
I can’t confirm whether that was just a coincidence or it’s just an ATS mistake, but what I can confirm is that this is NOT the way to the richest.
Great losses are great lessons
Many times what we perceive as an error or failure is actually a gift. And
― Richelle E. Goodrich, Smile Anywayeventually we find that lessons learned from that discouraging experience prove to be of great worth.
After this experience, I’ve learnt a few big lessons, a lesson that probably most of my readers already knew about it, lessons that may work out for me but won’t for you. We are all different and my lessons and your lessons may differ.
My two big lesson:
- Dream big sensibly.
- Invest rationally and not emotionally.
Other lessons learned:
- Focus on the Warren Buffet rule number 1: Don’t lose money
- Do my own due diligence before investing a big lump sum of money with any new financial service. If I can’t understand it, I won’t invest.
- Test withdrawals several times before investing a big lump sum of money.
- Preferably invest with financial services regulated by the FCA or any other mayor and liable regulation.
- Don’t trust online reviews – some of them are bought and fake.
- Be careful with
account or financial managers, their goal is to improve their commission, not mine. - Reread the chapter number 8 from the Intelligent Investor occasionally.
As a general conclusion, I have learnt that increasing wealth takes a long time and discipline, and short-cutting isn’t the way to follow during my journey. Dreaming too big was the personal reason that led me to short-cutting, thus the importance of keeping my mind rational from now on during my future investing decisions.
I hope you enjoyed reading my
Thanks for reading
Tony
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Wow, thank you! Such a well-written story! I was completely hooked from the get-go.
I’m real sorry for the financial loss though. Losing money sucks ? but I know you will recover from it. You have the right attitude.
And reading this I have realized I’m probably taking on more risk than I should, so thank you! I believe you have already impacted one person with this.
If you still have time to investigate what technically happened on the losing trade, that would be a very interesting detail. So it worked first, how? And then it didn’t? I don’t understand how the money is made from this. Apparently with huge leverage on small, likely changes, or something?
Anyway, really well written. Thank you for sharing this story. Sorry for the money you lost.
Thanks Eelis, much appreciated.
The trading strategy differs according to trading signals and market news. I didn’t have direct access to the software, so I don’t how it was structured.
The general strategy was to trade against the market direction. For instance, if the EUR drops following a downtrend channel, the algos will follow the opposite trend and buy EUR. The further it falls the bigger the lots will be, up to a point were the EUR will rise back up high enough to be able to close all open trades at a profit. This is just the general overview, but there are tons of trading signals that can be used in algotrading. It’s a very complex thing to learn and requires years of backtesting, don’t think it is worth the time.
The higher the lots and leverage the higher the risks to run out of margin if the EUR drops too much, which is what happened during March. There are also other risks as losing connection during trading. No one knows what really happened cos they don’t have to answers questions before any regulatory system, that’s the trick.
Yes the leverage was huge, up to 1:500 if I’m not wrong, which is by far over the limit that the FCA regulation allows.
To be honest, the least you understand the better. Curiosity is what made me started all.
What an interesting experience to read from an outsider, although one that was difficult for you to go through.
The truth is, it doesn’t matter how much we read or what we are told. Until we are in the exact same position, we won’t know how we will behave. Anyone who claims this will never happen to them is delusional. Given the right set of circumstances, even the most rational and logical minded person will have their emotions take over. Speak to anyone who has been through a nasty divorce…
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Hi Tony
I am in similar position with Algotechs but I didn’t loose quiet as much as you. Did you ever try get your money back since it was fraud?
Hi Paul,
I am on it, but it’s a very long process with no real expectations of getting the money back. What about you?
Hi,
I am also trying to get my money back; any ideas?
You may speak with your solicitor to find out whether you’ve got a case or not.
There’s a funds Recovery Campaign Launched, all info on the link down below:
https://fintelegram.news/bealgo-algotechs-efri-funds-recovery-campaign-launched/
You may also want to hang around the Forex Peace Army forum often and check out any news or information from other users:
https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/fx-scam-algotechs-https-algotechs-com-and-bealgo-bealgo-com.57830/
All the best.
Thanks for providing the details; I am in the process of making a claim via ERFI.
Have you made any progress with them? There is a fee of 75 Euros, I’m curious of this as I’ve already been bitten once but cannot find anything to suggest that it is a scam.
Yes I have and I would suggest you to join too. I can’t display much info here but they are our only hope.
A brutally honest account omj and you’ll definitely help people with this
Thank you, I really hope so awesomebritabroad.
Thanks for sharing your story Tony. I’m very sorry that you lost so much money, but as others have said, this will certainly help future readers who are looking to make quick money with the next big thing.
I think your transparency in writing about this, and the positive attitude you’ve shown in the aftermath, is a real testament to your character. I suspect that, in the long term, this will be only a minor bump in the road on your journey to one million!
Thank you so much for your supportive words Dr. Fire. It’s a high bump at the moment but with the correct discipline and mindset, I am hoping to make it look smaller in the future.
You guys are so supportive, I can’t find the right words to express my gratitude towards you all.
Hi Tony,
the same thing has happened to me with Algotechs. I started at around the same time (Oct 2017). Didn’t pay to much attention in the first year, got about 120% ROI – realised the significance of this and was driving for the same goal as you. I stupidly took out a bank loan (50K) and put it in at the very beginning of this year, then another 20K of my own money very soon after. As we know, growth was very rapid at the begiing of the year until this big draw down that they cashed in. then they tried to rectify the situation to make the investors money back, basically just gambling with huge trades at stupid times during the market movements and created a draw down that eat up everyone’s accounts. now they have closed everything and disappeared from the face of the earth – everything closed, everything gone, leaving me around 80K in the hole with 50K of that being a loan.
I don’t know what recourse investors have , if any, to fight back
Steve
Hi Stephen,
I’m very sorry to hear from your bad experience with Algotechs. Borrowing money was a move I had in my mind too. I was allowed to borrow 30K from my Spanish Bank out of a mouse click, but luckily, I didn’t pressed that button at the end,probably just cos I am not comfortable carrying debt, otherwise, Im sure I’d have taken it as well.
As an unregulated offshore “business” investors are left alone naked, without any type of protection, data, procedure or absolutely anything at all. It’s the same as if you lent money to a friend promising that he will give you back your money with interest, but then he would get into problems,changing his mind and flying away to another country with your money.
Make sure you file your claim with EFRI, the more people claims it and show evidence the higher the chance to recover our funds. There’s a 75€ fee, after all, this is nothing compared with the money we lost. You’ll joint a Telegram group where we are been informed of what to do and any progress.
Here’s the link:
https://fintelegram.news/bealgo-algotechs-efri-funds-recovery-campaign-launched/
See you soon Stephen.
Hello Tony,
I, too, are a victim to Algotechs. My story is exactly the same as everyone else. I invested €15000, managed to withdraw €7000.
I would like to file a claim with ERFI, as suggested by you. So far are you seeing any progress with your claim?
Cal
Hi Cal,
When did that happen? I thought they were not doing business anymore?
Things are advancing, slowly. There’s also a facebook group. You could ask there before paying the 75€. If you need more details get in touch with me via email. Thanks and I’m sorry for your loss.
Hi Tony, can you tell me few words more about EFRI, what is the status and does it promise anything? I am also a victim of Algotechs, very similar scenario. I have sent 2 requests to EFRI but nobody reply. Appreciate in advance on any news of it is worth to join this program?
Hi Piotr,
EFRI does not promise anything, furthermore, it has clearly told us that the probability of recovering our funds are scarce.
The thing here is to help to stop this European scamming scandal. EFRI collects all the data from us an investigates who is behind the scheme.
The more people who join the program, the better chance that European authorities will take us seriously.
You don’t have to pay to provide your data though. Paying the 75EUR will put you in a Telegram group, where you’ll be updated and supported by other victims.
I guess it all depends on how much money you lost. In my case, the 45K EUR is worth the shot.
Don’t take my word for granted. As I said to Cal, you can also join the Facebook group and ask others their personal opinion about EFRI.
I’m sorry about your loss. Be strong!
Thank you for the reply. I am sorry for your loss, which is much more bigger then mine, and I clearly understand the pain… I will think about all this stuff, as I have reported the case to the police and few financial organizations myself, with no result obviously.
P.S> thank you for a nice peace of blog ?
thanks for posting this.
I think that there is a great deal of shame about losing a lot of money and you don’t hear that much about people’s failures and instead a lot of their successes.
This type of investing is like gambling and I think that the companies are predators who look for prey – like you.
Even worse, they know how to cajole investors/algos like a shark does to a shoal of fish – get you investing long, short, long. short until they gobble you up!
More exotic investing/gambling like this does come with a wealth warning (75% of investors lose money) but gamblers always think that they are lucky…
Thanks,
I absolutely agree. Unfortunately, this sort of investments (binary options, cryptos, forex and so on) are growing massively and EU is failing to 1) control fraudsters and 2) educate people to not fall for such schemes. In addition, there’s no cooperation among EU countries to stop them, which gives fraudsters an opportunity to steal money. Very frustrating altogether!
Having the guts to post one’s mistakes is the hallmark of a mature person, congratulations for not only showing your successes but your failures too.
Every investor makes large mistakes sooner or later, it’s just part of the learning journey!
Thanks for the kind words Efficient Millenial. Appreciated ?
Sorry for your loss, and thanks for sharing. Good lesson to learn for all!
Btw, it’s *lump* sum, not “slum” or “slump”.
Thanks, Boop for approaching.
Oops! Thanks for spotting that, corrected 🙂
No worries… You missed two more slums, btw 🙂
Haha… Ok 😉
T, I’m totally gob smacked fella. Makes my largest loss of €3k just randomly trading the market seem like nothing. I was sick to my stomach when that happened I can tell u. Now I tr to respect money more. I’ve always had to learn lessons the hard way, now I’m older, I try to learn from others.
Thanks for your article and keep growing that portfolio fella.
Thanks so much Steve for your support, truly appreciated mate
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